Bringing plants back...

[kentosaurs]

Scary Cat here dun even dare think of it anymore lol

Ken

[bactrus]

Ken, Good idea nad you'll just smear your good name. Considering you haven't any bad records with authorities. I have a very very bad record with the police- for exceeding speed limit. Yup, I have also learn some good lessons.

[kentosaurs]

Hi

How about sending plants from lets say sabah and sarawak to here?? Example i am there...and got some plants since there can just pos laju it back here.. Is that possible?

Ken

[edwardyeeks]

I believe that any means of shipping a CP through air no matter whatever way will require CITES permits and certificates. If you attempt to send a plant with no permit, the plant will be confisticated and you will lose it forever.............if you try shipping it without permits, well, you might end up like what ban aik said........however, it is kinda tricky and full of rules to transport a plant internationally.

Cheers

[kentosaurs]

Example if i buy a plant from sabah and i'm in malaysia the sender would just have to pack it up and send it to me right? Soo whats the difference with me there sending the plant back to my own place??

Ken

[kltower]

Ken,

If you click onto Malesiana Tropicals website, you will see that there is a red text asking whether you have a permit. Now that permit for importation is required for overseas purchasers. Up until two years ago, MT ships to all Malaysian states with phytosanitary certificate and a wildlife permit but NO Cities certification. Cities certification is ONLY required for INTERNATONAL trade.

From 2006, MT just ships without any PC and permit. This works out better for them, because for the issurance of PC, they have to treat the plants with chemicals. Many a time the treatment caused the plants to die.

In countries like America, shipping of plants interstate also required PC so as to prevent the spread of plant disease and pests.

On another issue is the are alot of illegal/protect plants sold in the markets of Sarawak and Sabah. You will be surprise, there are many European and Japanese owning illegally collected rajah, macrophylla, edwardsiana and clipeatas.

In theory, when we go into the Kinabalu NP we have to hire a guide, who not only guide us but also ensure that we don't collect or mess round with the plants. I was told of a Japanese collector who paid the natives living around the park to collect macrophylla seedlings for him.

So if you are caught with illegal plants you are also in hot soup. Even in courier boxes. Don't forget to prevent, illegal trade like pirated CDs and drugs, our custom have installs many hi-tech scanners at major courier and post offices collection centres. But unless you are an expert, all nepenthes looks alike. Which means plants in small parcels would usually go through (this is my opinion).

Choong

[NepNut]

This is a sticky issue but good that we have some construtive discussion about this. Ken, my advice, start your collection by getting plants from local hobbyist (Sabah and Sarawak included), there's should be plenty to different species for you to trade or buy.

Please be aware bringing plants like nep from overseas will require a lot of paper work by law. If you don't follow the law, you have only yourself to blame and you'll bare all the consequences.

[kentosaurs]

So like my newest question sending plants back from sabah back to KL do i need any permits?? Or is it just a normal pos laju sending? I guess it should be but i just ain't that sure..

Ken