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Pioneer Member / Global Moderator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() member is offline ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male ![]() Posts: 713 Location: Ayer Keroh, Malacca ![]() « Thread Started on May 16, 2007, 11:27am » ![]() ![]() Ive been thinking of other medium for CPs especially Neps. We usually use sphagnum moss and peat moss, but there in their natural habitat, they thrive well on soil. Perhaps other members know what soil is it? Seeing Gracilis grow at Cheras that day, i believe that the soil there is laterite. However, some Neps also grow very well on clay. p/s: Honestly, my pockets are burnt with holes to buy peat/ sphganum moss! ![]() Link to Post - Back to Top ![]() Junior Member ![]() ![]() member is offline ![]() ![]() Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male ![]() Posts: 83 Location: Cheras ![]() « Reply #1 on May 16, 2007, 12:03pm » ![]() ![]() I'm trying to grow one of the gracilis on normal soil I'm using for planting flowers and stuff. Link to Post - Back to Top ![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() member is online ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male ![]() Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur ![]() « Reply #2 on May 16, 2007, 12:31pm » ![]() ![]() ![]() I've seen other growers grow Nepethes in normal soil also but I've never tried it before. Link to Post - Back to Top ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() member is offline ![]() I'm back! ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Feb 2007 Gender: Male ![]() Posts: 473 Location: Subang Jaya, SS19 ![]() « Reply #3 on May 16, 2007, 1:31pm » ![]() ![]() Link to Post - Back to Top ![]() Pioneer Member / Global Moderator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() member is offline ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male ![]() Posts: 713 Location: Ayer Keroh, Malacca ![]() « Reply #4 on May 16, 2007, 2:45pm » ![]() ![]() Quote:Normal soil? Kinda risky hehe. Well i've seen nurseries grow them in 100% polystyrene! XD Peat/moss is best so for best growth. Though I'm sure there are other things. Is cocopeat cheaper? Wash that stuff 3 times in tap water and 1 more time in rain/ro/distilled water and it should be safe. yeah, though u claim that peat/moss is the best, i think that mimicking their true natural habitat is the best. Im not saying that peat/moss is not the best, but they grow very well on soil in the forest.. Well, perhaps the analogy is like this. It is good to take supplementary pills of Vitamin A and C, but still, eating fruits to obtain the vitamins is still the best (im sorry, but im kinnda bit old fashioned) ![]() Link to Post - Back to Top ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() member is offline ![]() I'm back! ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Feb 2007 Gender: Male ![]() Posts: 473 Location: Subang Jaya, SS19 ![]() « Reply #5 on May 16, 2007, 3:28pm » ![]() ![]() Link to Post - Back to Top ![]() Pioneer Member / Global Moderator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() member is offline ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male ![]() Posts: 713 Location: Ayer Keroh, Malacca ![]() « Reply #6 on May 17, 2007, 10:55am » ![]() ![]() Well, according to this simple document found on the Internet, it is not good to use burnt soil for neps: http://www.usc.edu/CSSF/History/2004/Projects/J0924.pdf Burnt soil contains more NPK! Link to Post - Back to Top ![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() member is online ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male ![]() Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur ![]() « Reply #7 on May 19, 2007, 9:44am » ![]() ![]() Quote:Is cocopeat cheaper? Wash that stuff 3 times in tap water and 1 more time in rain/ro/distilled water and it should be safe. Zak, is this cocopeat or coconut peat? I am just worried whether washing 3 times with tap water and 1 one time with RO/distilled/rain water would wash away any desolved mineral salts in the media completely. Have you tried it before? I know that it is dangerous to use coconut peat harvested from coconut trees that grows by the seaside as it contains mineral salts? However I've heard good reports on the use of coconut peat that were harvested from inland. I have not heard anyone using coco peat for CPs before. I tried Tea peat before. Bad idea. Each time I water, the water that comes out from below the pot is brown like tea. I think it would be the same for coco peat. And the tea peat grows fungus. « Last Edit: May 19, 2007, 9:54am by David »Link to Post - Back to Top ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() member is offline ![]() I'm back! ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Feb 2007 Gender: Male ![]() Posts: 473 Location: Subang Jaya, SS19 ![]() « Reply #8 on May 19, 2007, 11:06pm » ![]() ![]() "I am just worried whether washing 3 times with tap water and 1 one time with RO/distilled/rain water would wash away any desolved mineral salts in the media completely." Worried that it WOULD wash away? It's supposed to. I'm trying it with my nep seedlings and they are doing fine. Starting to grow the 2nd set of leaves. Link to Post - Back to Top ![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() member is online ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male ![]() Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur ![]() « Reply #9 on May 20, 2007, 1:02pm » ![]() ![]() Link to Post - Back to Top ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() member is offline ![]() I'm back! ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Feb 2007 Gender: Male ![]() Posts: 473 Location: Subang Jaya, SS19 ![]() « Reply #10 on May 20, 2007, 6:40pm » ![]() ![]() Link to Post - Back to Top ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() member is offline ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Jan 2007 Gender: Male ![]() Posts: 381 Location: Batu Pahat, Johor ![]() « Reply #11 on May 20, 2007, 7:38pm » ![]() ![]() Quote:I know what coconut peat is and I have used it before. Just a caution to growers who want to use it. Perhaps the ones we bought were not contaminated with that much mineral salts or non at all. So it is ok. Just to be safe my advise it to wash more than 3-4 times to be sure rather than limit it to just 4 times. I used only coconut peat for my rafflesiana too, so far it grow very well, and the new develop pitchers is bigger. But coconut peat invite a lot of very tiny white color bugs, but it didnt harm the plant. 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Pet shops also sell it sometimes. It's sold as dried cubes. Don't let the size fool you. It can get 3-4 times bigger than the size of the cube when it starts soaking up water. I used to use neopith but the nurseries here don't sell it anymore. I think it's from Thailand ? Also i found that neps will grow on any kind of medium but ensure it's well drain. Link to Post - Back to Top ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() member is offline ![]() I'm back! ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Feb 2007 Gender: Male ![]() Posts: 473 Location: Subang Jaya, SS19 ![]() « Reply #18 on May 22, 2007, 7:22pm » ![]() ![]() Link to Post - Back to Top ![]() Pioneer Member / Global Moderator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() member is offline ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male ![]() Posts: 713 Location: Ayer Keroh, Malacca ![]() « Reply #19 on May 22, 2007, 7:43pm » ![]() ![]() Quote: Also i found that neps will grow on any kind of medium but ensure it's well drain. Well drain is easier to achieve, but nutrient free is some what challenging ![]() Link to Post - Back to Top ![]() |
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