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My miranda, you think it's ok?
« Thread Started on Mar 20, 2007, 11:03am » Well I got a n. miranda, small and sunburnt haha. Here's a pic :

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Ok well i'm pretty sure it's a miranda... I've never been any good at recognising plant differences. So now i'm keeping it in bright shade, no direct sunlight. I've hung it outside, i don't know what the humidity is out there... Think it's okay? It's hanging about a meter over my flytraps which are all sitting in water. I could always put a bucket of water under it~ « Last Edit: Mar 20, 2007, 11:34am by zakhren »Link to Post - Back to Top 219.95.134.110 David
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« Reply #1 on Mar 20, 2007, 4:46pm » It does look sunburn huh. I hope it is not rust spot fungus. can you show a closer shot of the leaves and pitchers?
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« Reply #2 on Mar 20, 2007, 5:11pm » Hmm it looks like sunburn to me too, but im not that confident. This is because if it is sunburnt, it should only be one part of the plant that will turn brown and look burnt, which is the part of the plant that receives the direct sunlight. However, this plant looks brown from every angle.. « Last Edit: Mar 21, 2007, 9:15pm by artificialive »Link to Post - Back to Top 60.52.175.33[Naj Grow List] --- [Naj Wanted List] zakhren
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« Reply #3 on Mar 20, 2007, 8:56pm » Well The whole plant was getting full sun at the nursery I was at. Alot of the plants under the sun looked like this. Pics i'll post soon tonight.

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What does the fungus look like? If it is that fungus how do I fix it? Will spraying fungicide do? I hope it's just normal sunburn...

Oh and I think it's growing in peat moss now, I'm planning to repot it after a month after it gets used to it's new environment, what would be the best medium to transplant it into? Peat moss or sphagnum moss? And how much perlite if any? « Last Edit: Mar 20, 2007, 9:38pm by zakhren »Link to Post - Back to Top 218.208.244.87 David
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« Reply #4 on Mar 21, 2007, 9:25am » Usually neps get rust spot fungus when they are placed under direct sun and rain. It just look like spots of rust on the leaves.

Just a suggestion, I think it is better to repot now and let the plant acclimatise once rather than twice in 1-2 months. Neps do not like changes in their environment, so better to do it all at once now and after that leave it alone.

I use to use just sphagnum moss in the past. I later found this to be too wet and there is not enough air for the roots. So now I use 2 part perlite and 1 part sphagnum moss now. Sometimes I add some peat moss in it. Different growers will have their own prefered mix and no one mix is best. It depends on your growing environment, how often you water them, etc.

I think if you are using peat moss, you've got to mix with more perlite or similar materials to provide air to the roots as peat is very compact.
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« Reply #5 on Mar 21, 2007, 10:57am » I used 2:1 perlite : peat for my nep, sometimes with some sphagnum moss added. I agreed with David that you repot now rather later to stress the plant once again.
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« Reply #6 on Mar 21, 2007, 11:01am » Thanks. Well the leaves don't look like they have spots. How do I treat rust spot just in case? I'll go repot now hehe. I think into a 2 perlite/1 peat moss with sphagnum moss topping. « Last Edit: Mar 21, 2007, 11:03am by zakhren »Link to Post - Back to Top 218.208.207.193 zakhren
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« Reply #7 on Mar 21, 2007, 12:44pm » Ok well at the last minute I decided to go for a 1:1:1 peat/perlite/sphagnum mix with a 1 inch sphagnum topping~ The humidity is quite high recently, raining heavily every night, hopefully it'll help it get used to it's new environment. Cloudy days though not good for my flytraps haha.
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« Reply #8 on Mar 21, 2007, 1:24pm »
Quote:How do I treat rust spot just in case?

Just buy the normal fungicide from the nursery. I go for those that are powdered. You'll have to mix it with water and spray on the leaves. It will be unsightly at first as the whole plant will have white powder spots on it once the water dries up. Don wash it away. Leave it there for a few days.

The thing is the fungus might be killed but their rust spots will still remain on the old leaves. If you manage to kill off teh fungus, the new leaves will be green and clean. So you'll have to wait for some time before the whole plant is nice and green.

However, I found it difficult to manage rust spot fungus when my plants are put outside under sun and rain. The best is to give it dappled sunlight (50%-70% sun) and covered from the rain.
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« Reply #9 on Mar 21, 2007, 1:31pm » Ah thanks. Yeah my miranda is underneath a roof but at the edge. it doesnt get any rain just light or sprays while it rains, and it get direct sunlight only really early morning for about half an hour to an hour. But it's so early and it isn't very intense light. « Last Edit: Mar 21, 2007, 1:33pm by zakhren »Link to Post - Back to Top 218.208.207.193 artificialive
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« Reply #10 on Mar 21, 2007, 9:12pm » Zak, i think the position is good. I hang my miranda there too. Its a very vigorous grower, so dont worry. It will recover in no time

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due to the period where i go back to my hometown for about 1 week for semester break, nobody water my neps including the miranda. Sadly, all the pitchers dried up, turned brown and look ugly. But fortunately, no neps plant died. I just think that neps can absorb water from their pitchers when the media is dried up.
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« Reply #11 on Mar 22, 2007, 5:32pm » Ok well here's a picture of that new leaf opened. It just opened up today. Any sign of rust spot or is it supposed to be that colour? I expect this new leaf was somewhat exposed to full sun too before I got it.
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« Reply #12 on Mar 22, 2007, 6:43pm » As for my plant, new leaves also look like yours.. So i think its normal. Its very slightly brownish, and glazed..
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« Reply #13 on Mar 22, 2007, 10:24pm »
Quote:As for my plant, new leaves also look like yours.. So i think its normal. Its very slightly brownish, and glazed..

New N. miranda leaves has that slightly brownish glaze look to it. When the leaves grow older, they turn more greenish.


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« Reply #14 on Mar 22, 2007, 10:25pm »
Quote:Ok well here's a picture of that new leaf opened. It just opened up today. Any sign of rust spot or is it supposed to be that colour? I expect this new leaf was somewhat exposed to full sun too before I got it.


You can be quite sure now that the brownish leaves was sunburn. If it was fungus this new leave whold have it too... So now you can sleep in peace.
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« Reply #15 on Mar 22, 2007, 10:50pm » Haha good~ No worry about getting rid of fungus. I wonder if this leaf will pitcher. So far the end is just a brown lumpish thing i'm sure you know what i'm talking about haha.
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« Reply #16 on Mar 22, 2007, 11:04pm » Dark brown or light brown? If dark brown, it is burnt and will not blow up into a pitcher.
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« Reply #17 on Mar 22, 2007, 11:07pm » It's still light brown. I take it thats a good sign It would be my first pitcher grown under my care hehe
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« Reply #18 on Mar 22, 2007, 11:12pm » You know what you can do. Document it. Take a picture now. Then as it grows each day, take pictures of its' progress. When I get a camera of my own I'm gonna do that.
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« Reply #19 on Mar 22, 2007, 11:18pm » Good idea! Since I'm a bit free now I'll go take a pic. I hope it's ok... Well you can tell me when you see it.

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