The 7th plant and its ID

[Cindy]

The shape of Heliamphora pitchers differs quite a lot in different light conditions. By looking at the spoon and pitcher shape alone, it is not definite that the species can be identified.

Look at the example given here:
http://home.arcor.de/j.danz/H_nutans_f.html

[eric_sow]

Actually I am obverse major on the spoon lid and others of the pitcher.

H. glabra is new specie as before that it name as H.heterodoxa var glaba. (Information from internet) Maybe Choong is right it could be H.glaba x nutans hybrid. And could be market commonly mark it H.heterodoxa x nutans hybrid.

Anyway, this is discussion to find out the 7th plant ID.

[kltower]

Hi Eric,

Thanks for your input.

What Stewart is trying to say is that when we buy H. nutans, we invariably get H. glabra x nutans hybrid. This is a natural occurring hybrid. And when they cross back with the parents they are hard to distinguish. It is like buying N. alata and ending up with N x Venrata!

I have studied a few photos of heterodoxa, nutans and heterodoxa x nutans (http://www.humboldt.edu/~rrz7001/Heliamphora.html). If you look at heterodoxa x nutans hybrid you will see that the wing occur very high up, close to the opening (http://www.fotop.net/averyorchids/He...nutans?r=fotop) whereas, nutans and glabra x nutans wings appear close to the ventricose.

In fact, if you compare our plants with photos of H. nutans, you will think they are H. nutans. One typical H. nutans photo (http://www.bestcarnivorousplants.org...sr72-1281.html). Then again this could be a hybrid too!

Choong

[eric_sow]

Hmm... very interesting discussion. Guess we need to wait till plant be mature to identify again. This is my Heliamphora picture.

[kentosaurs]

Man those guys are nice!!! Regreted that i missed the event...I shall get it one day.

Ken

[edwardyeeks]

Hmmm, I see that the heliamphora glabra pitchers has a very straight pitcher. As in compared to nutans, the middle of the pitcher is straight, not constricted a little.

Cheers

[kltower]

Here is a photo of the plant with flowers - taken at YG Park. Sorry I didn't focus the flower properly.