Poaching

[sooxiwei]

well, how do you expect them to know plucking some neps from the wild is illegal. With the rapid development going on in this country, it is just the matter of time these neps and plants are all going to be destroyed, a real clear example would be Cyberjaya, today you might saw a bunch of n. gracilis growing abundantly, by tomorrow, you might saw the same spot being wiped up totally for construction. Taking a bunch of neps doesn't necessarily means he will own all of it, he might distribute them around to close friends like how rural area people do before any land is destroyed for oil palm estate, the point is that he ensure survival of species of nep from that area before demolition begin or might even end up entering this hobby and found out such action is illegal/unethical. Don't just judge it in one way as this is not fair to people who are unaware cping ethic which are quite unknown to outsider

[plantlover]

Unless the place is really doomed like what sooxiwei said(development etc), then I think taking some is OK. But this is another story. Perhaps he does not know the rules regarding wild nepenthes poaching. I have a relative who told me his neighbour has some wild neps. They did not know poacj=hing is really illegal. The rules must be made clearer for everyone to see. That's just my opinion so i hope no conflict happens.(Actually if I had the chance I would take 1 too, hehehe)

[boonleng]

if the guy just took 1/2 cuttings for his own collection or for the survival of the species or for whatever reason.. then I dont mind coz sometime I oso taking plants cuttings home, but taking a big bag of the same species that would be too much.
If he want to distribute the species to friends, harvesting from the wild would be a wrong way to do it, propagation should be the correct way.

[arvin555]

Hehehe, and chances are the person is maybe a member of this forum, he will be shy to say so already.

You guys are so lucky that there are still nepenthes along your roads, here, nothing at all anymore!

TTFN
Arvin

[kentosaurs]

Its MUA!!! Hahahah jking i wish i can drive and become tat tall...Haiz sangs macs and ramps gone...

[yctan118]

Originally Posted by boonleng

if the guy just took 1/2 cuttings for his own collection or for the survival of the species or for whatever reason.. then I dont mind coz sometime I oso taking plants cuttings home, but taking a big bag of the same species that would be too much.
If he want to distribute the species to friends, harvesting from the wild would be a wrong way to do it, propagation should be the correct way.

I agree with BL. If everyone use this excuse and cut a big bag... what will happen? Dont forget that in this big bag, how many of them will die during the transition period before plants are being given to the respective person.

Hate those who like to sapu and even worst if they make $$$ out from it...
low life.

Kudos to BL who is so alert and quick in action to take a picture of his car.

[yctan118]

Want to add another point.
The joy for us to see Neps and any plants in-situ is way beyond what i can describe to you now.
We can not stopped development from destroying natural sites but at least we can stop ourselves and our friends from simply cutting a big bag on any given day....

This is a way we could "give" back something to our mother nature.

[David]

The person in the picture of the first post taken by boonleng has spoken to me. He could not reply to these allegations against him as he could not write in English very well and is not familiar with the forum. He speaks mainly Chinese dialects. He has only recently found out about this thread.

He told me he did not take any plants from that site, only pitchers as he wanted to preserve them. He appreciates boonleng's concerns for the plants and said that if he was asked to show what he had in the plastic bag, he would gladly show it to prove that it is not plants in there, but just the pitchers of the Nepenthes plant.

I have removed the picture of his car in the first post.

[marvin1997]

Oh sorry for doubting you.....

[Aliamyz]

Originally Posted by sooxiwei

well, how do you expect them to know plucking some neps from the wild is illegal. With the rapid development going on in this country, it is just the matter of time these neps and plants are all going to be destroyed, a real clear example would be Cyberjaya, today you might saw a bunch of n. gracilis growing abundantly, by tomorrow, you might saw the same spot being wiped up totally for construction. Taking a bunch of neps doesn't necessarily means he will own all of it, he might distribute them around to close friends like how rural area people do before any land is destroyed for oil palm estate, the point is that he ensure survival of species of nep from that area before demolition begin or might even end up entering this hobby and found out such action is illegal/unethical. Don't just judge it in one way as this is not fair to people who are unaware cping ethic which are quite unknown to outsider

Agree with you Soo.