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N. alata vs N. eustachya
« Thread Started on Feb 15, 2008, 8:21pm »
Somewhere, somehow along the years I've got this idea that these two species are similar and rather boring. Finally, now that both of them are producing pitchers for me I am convinced they are distinctly different and are beautiful in their own ways.

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« Reply #1 on Feb 16, 2008, 10:49am »
Cindy,
Did you get those photos mixed up? Eustachya are usually more vivid than alatas (except selected colored forms). I also believe N. alata lacks wings on the pitchers.

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« Reply #2 on Feb 16, 2008, 2:26pm »
Hi Cindy,
AFAIK, eustachya got colorful striped peristome, compared to alata
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« Reply #3 on Feb 16, 2008, 7:59pm »
No mix up, unless MT got them wrongly labelled.

N. eustachya is lightly-coloured because my growing area is in bright shade this time of the year. The newer pitcher is more brightly coloured. I'll post pics later.

The N. alata is the Surigao clone. It took the longest time to pitcher for me. And when it did the pitchers look like the one showed here.
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Re: N. alata vs N. eustachya
« Reply #4 on Feb 17, 2008, 3:43am »
Hi Cindy and All,
We find nothing boring with eustachya and the alata complex. Here are some examples photographed by Michelle on a sunny Saturday afternoon in the Sunbelle greenhouse.

N. eustachya (red x purple) from Exotica


a different N. eustachya (red x purple) from Exotica

We find the eustachya plants we have (seed raised from EP) enjoy intermediate to lowland conditions, and like the same conditions as our lowland veitchii- drying out a bit between waterings and a well drained compost.
Next is a greenhouse bred cultivar of alata, named in honour of the Italian horror film director-a title from one of his movies, Dario Argento. It aludes to the blood red colr.
N. alata 'Profundo Rosso'


Other forms of alata. Alata is one of the most prolific pitcher producers, and a well grown specimen can be spectacular. Here are some different forms.
N. alata (g) from Exotica in the middle and two pitchers from N. alata (b) on the ends


N. alata (giant x Luzon) from Exotica growing outside the greenhouse
A testiment to toughness, this plants grows outside as a garden plant year round...scorching heat in summer, and dissicating cold wind in winter...it keeps on going.


Trent and Michelle
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Re: N. alata vs N. eustachya
« Reply #5 on Feb 17, 2008, 6:52am »
Great post Trent and Michelle. I didn't know that alata was named after a Dario Argento movie...Suspiria has always been one of my favorite movies of all time.
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« Reply #6 on Feb 17, 2008, 8:07am »
Thanks, Ludwig. We like Suspiria too. There are very few pictures with such a unique mood to them...it really has a weird dream like quality. Maybe nightmare is a better word. I hear there is going to be a re-make:not by Dario. It will almost certainly fall short of the strange balance of cinematic elements that are in the original. Okay, enough movie talk.


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« Reply #7 on Feb 18, 2008, 3:39pm »
Thanks, Sam for the beautiful pitchers!

The N. eustachya from Geoff are wonderfully coloured. Do they received direct sunlight too?
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« Reply #8 on Feb 18, 2008, 8:49pm »
Hi Cindy... Sam did not post... Sunbelle is Trent and Michelle (she took the photos)

Leilani is Sam... the guy with the white gloves in all his photos.

Our N. eustachya grow in a bright and sunny area, but not direct sun. They don't like extreme heat or cold. They do the best pitchers for us in spring and fall. Not as easy and tough as N. alata, N. eustachya requires a little more tender love and care. « Last Edit: Feb 18, 2008, 9:04pm by sunbelle »Link to Post - Back to Top Logged cindy
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Re: N. alata vs N. eustachya
« Reply #9 on Feb 19, 2008, 11:46am »
So sorry, it was one of those days I identify the wrong people, knock my plants over and burnt the food I was cooking. LOL

Thanks for the reply, sunbelle (T&M).

My N. eustachya does not receive direct sunlight and the pitchers are rather pale. I'll see how it goes during July-September when the weather is the brightest and hottest.
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« Reply #10 on Feb 20, 2008, 1:02am »
Sunbelle,
Wait until that alata (Giant x Luzon) starts to vine. Keep it in an area where you'd like to see foot long pitchers from every leaf! Then they begin to vine up a tree, over the neighbor's wall or behind your collection seeking slugs, snails, roaches and centipedes.

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Re: N. alata vs N. eustachya
« Reply #11 on Feb 20, 2008, 10:31pm »
It will be climbing up into a croton. We are trialling a number of Neps outside as garden plants here in southern Florida. It is winter, and so far, so good. The big test is surviving the cold fronts when there is a whipping dry wind and nights can get close to freezing. Between the cold fronts, weather can be very balmy and pleasant.
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