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Tarence: Cultivation of N. adnata
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Administrator member is online Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Cultivation of N. adnata « Thread Started on Aug 6, 2007, 9:11am » Moved from "N. mirabilis x thorelii" thread... tarence Global Moderator Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: N. mirabilis x thorelii « Reply #2 on Aug 3, 2007, 10:28am » David, i read some of Chien Lee`s growing tips which i printed from last time for n.adnata...he suggested heavy shading so i`ve put mine under quite filtered conditions...that could be why mine is pitcher shy...it used to be exposed to morning sun fully.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Administrator Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Location: Kepong, KL Re: N. mirabilis x thorelii « Reply #9 on Yesterday at 8:44pm » Tarence, I don know if it is a good idea to move the adnata to a shaded place. Before I gave it to you, the plant was grown under arlitficial lights 16 hours a day. It seem to be doing well then. Also I notice the plant at your place the other day. It seem to have vine. It has not done that at my place. Perhaps the sunlight is not enough and it is tryi6ng to reach out to the sun. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- fauzi Joined: Feb 2007 Gender: Male Location: Ampang, Selangor, Malaysia Re: N. mirabilis x thorelii « Reply #10 on Yesterday at 10:48pm » Hi Tarence, David and the rest, I have this N.adnata in my nursery. The plant is doing fine under heavy shade and getting rain water. It seems to start vine only after the plant height reaching 5-6 inches. One of my N.adnata started flowering. It is from MT and hopefully it is a female plant so that I can cross it with the N.Miranda - (I have a N.clipeata x N.reinwardtiana (MT plant) that bloom female flower - previously I thought that all tissue culture plant will be a male plant.) Thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- cindy Advisor Joined: Aug 2007 Re: N. mirabilis x thorelii « Reply #11 on Yesterday at 11:00pm » Hi, Fauzi and David. I will be getting a adnata soon so just a couple of questions. Ermm, not sure if off-topics are ok... What is the mix used for adnata? Fauzi, when you say heavy shading, do you mean similar to N. hirsuta? David, what kind of artificial lights are you using? What is the wattage? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- tarence Global Moderator Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: N. mirabilis x thorelii « Reply #12 on Today at 8:41am » David : the n.adnata was getting direct sunlite similiar to mirabilis x thorelii`s above....the leaves turned a bit yellow too so that`s why i got worried. I`ll try shade ( 50% but more hours of exposure) for a bit & see how it goes. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Administrator Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Location: Kepong, KL Re: N. mirabilis x thorelii « Reply #13 on Today at 9:03am » Cindy, I use four 4-feet florencent plant lights at 38watts with reflectors on all sides to reflect light back to the plants Perhaps my setting is not as bright as natural morning sun. Tarance, hmm, if the leaves turn yellow, then I think it must be too much sun as you have rightly diagnosed the problem. Ok, ok, better put it in a more shaded area. Better to listen to Fauzi on this as he has more experience cultivating this plant than me. « Last Edit: Aug 6, 2007, 9:21am by David »Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist tarence Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #1 on Aug 6, 2007, 9:24am » David : I will....i`ll update when/ if the pitchers start re-appearing. I guess if it`s too hot, the nep will refuse to pitcher coz if it does, the pitcher will dry up anyways. I`m thinking like a nepenthes. O` dear I`m becoming like you. Cindy : I`ll check & see if I`ve printed out the medium recommendation for d.adnata. I`ll post the short write-up tmrw.... « Last Edit: Aug 6, 2007, 9:25am by tarence »Link to Post - Back to Top 203.106.226.7 isaacgoh Senior Member member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 503 Location: Antara Ipoh dan K. Lumpur Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #2 on Aug 6, 2007, 10:11am » Guys, Where did you get your adnata? How much would they cost? Rgds, Isaac Link to Post - Back to Top 218.111.224.161 cindy Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Singapore Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #3 on Aug 6, 2007, 1:08pm » Err...when did I become an advisor? David: It depends on how close the plant is under the lights. I use 3ft PL lights and some of my Nep are 3-5" away from the tube itself. I ever measured the light intensity, it averages about 10,000-15,000lux which is similar to full daylight. Direct sunlight is more than 20,0000lux. Link to Post - Back to Top 165.21.154.110 tarence Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #4 on Aug 6, 2007, 1:24pm » Cindy : David appointed you as an advisor the day you joined the forum ! heheh...he mentioned it in his welcome `speech` to you....saying that he took the liberty & hoped you didn`t mind..... David : you`ll have to tell Isaac where you got your / our n.adnata.... Link to Post - Back to Top 203.106.226.7 David Administrator member is online Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #5 on Aug 6, 2007, 2:03pm » Cindy, I place my plants about 10 cm from the lightings. On the "Advisor part", don worry about it. No presure! I can't just have you as a member on this forum. Don reply on whether you accept or not. You have no choice... haa, haa, haaa... Isaac, I got the plant from MT. Really tiny when I got it. Did a cutting on it when it grew a little bigger and gave the cutting to Tarence some time back. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist tarence Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #6 on Aug 6, 2007, 2:30pm » David : you gave it to me in mid April this year.....that was a cutting ? gosh, you really good at cuttings..... Link to Post - Back to Top 203.106.226.7 isaacgoh Senior Member member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 503 Location: Antara Ipoh dan K. Lumpur Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #7 on Aug 6, 2007, 4:05pm » David: Can I book another cutting in the future? I'd rather buy from you than MT. Fauzi: Do you have Adnata for sale? Recently, I saw some postings of Adnatas in the wild, been hooked since. Rgds, Isaac « Last Edit: Aug 6, 2007, 4:08pm by isaacgoh »Link to Post - Back to Top 218.111.224.161 cindy Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Singapore Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #8 on Aug 6, 2007, 8:53pm » Ahh...so I have no choice, David? Well, I should continue to act blur here then. Btw, will N. adnata grow big? How big? Seriously, anyone with pics? Link to Post - Back to Top 165.21.154.109 fauzi Advisor - Nepenthes member is offline Joined: Feb 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 96 Location: Ampang, Selangor, Malaysia Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #9 on Aug 7, 2007, 4:05am » Hi Cindy, My N.adnata grows together under the same shaded area as for the N.hirsuta. I am using shreaded sphagnum moss + perlite This is a dwarf species and the pitcher is about 2 inches only and they start vine when the plant is about 5-6 inches Isaac, I have a few plants but they have been booked and suppose to be collected this coming Friday. If they are not coming I'll PM you. Below are 2 photos of N.adnata Thanks Link to Post - Back to Top 218.111.50.19Nepenthes - unique plant for unique individual www.dapat.net/4zeplant rainforestguy Senior Member member is offline Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 386 Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #10 on Aug 7, 2007, 4:22am » Does anyone know if the MT adnatas have that fuzz on the edge of the leaf? M Link to Post - Back to Top 74.61.72.115http://www.lhnn.proboards107.com/index.cgi fauzi Advisor - Nepenthes member is offline Joined: Feb 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 96 Location: Ampang, Selangor, Malaysia Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #11 on Aug 7, 2007, 4:33am » Hi Michael, Mine is from MT. The 'fuzz' - you mean the brownish hairy thing on the edge of the leaf? I think mine have that fuzz. I'll reconfirm on it later part of the day. I've visited MT nursery last week. They seems to not having N.adnata anymore in their stock. Link to Post - Back to Top 218.111.50.19Nepenthes - unique plant for unique individual www.dapat.net/4zeplant tarence Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #12 on Aug 7, 2007, 9:19am » Here are the tips for adnata from Chien Lee`s short notes in MT from yesteryears plus 2 other neps tips : Adnata : An intermediate grower, preferring warm ( not hot ) conditions & considerable shading. Compost must be kept damp at all times Rafflesiana : does best with about 50% shading & warm humid conditions. Obtaining large size within 1-2 years. Bicalcarata : requires warmth & plenty of space for growth. Well drained media. Btw, I didn`t know it was a dwarf variety, no wonder i thot mine was stunted. David, next time we exchange plants, i need detailed instructions & care tips ! Heheh....you got me worried.....but I still need to work on the pitcherless part which I know is my fault. sigh. Link to Post - Back to Top 203.106.226.7 cindy Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Singapore Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #13 on Aug 7, 2007, 9:37am » Thanks, Fauzi for the pics. Is Clare one of those getting the N. adnata from you? She's helping me get one. I asked about the extent of shade because my balcony is very bright. The hirsuta I received from a friend last October is only beginning to put out larger leaves, let alone pitchers. Link to Post - Back to Top 165.21.154.117 isaacgoh Senior Member member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 503 Location: Antara Ipoh dan K. Lumpur Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #14 on Aug 7, 2007, 5:52pm » Longor of pitcherplant forum has given permission to post his pictures of adnata in the wild. This is his comments "adnata is a small species, they first develop rosstte then very thin and slender climbing vine. pitcher only grow to about 5-8cm, but the seedpods is very large, with large seeds, its a bit odd actually." Upper Pitcher Lower Pitcher Source from http://pitcherplants.proboards34.com/ind....read=1186219479 Thanks. Rgds, Isaac « Last Edit: Aug 7, 2007, 11:18pm by isaacgoh »Link to Post - Back to Top 218.111.224.161 fauzi Advisor - Nepenthes member is offline Joined: Feb 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 96 Location: Ampang, Selangor, Malaysia Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #15 on Aug 8, 2007, 12:05am » Hi, Michael, It is the one with the fuzz at the edge of the leaf. Cindy, Clare will be coming this Friday to collect the plants and most probably Jonathan will be coming with her. I'll post the photos of the plant later today - with seed pods, upper pitchers and their actual size. Thanks Link to Post - Back to Top 60.49.104.75Nepenthes - unique plant for unique individual www.dapat.net/4zeplant rainforestguy Senior Member member is offline Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 386 Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #16 on Aug 8, 2007, 8:24am » Thanks for checking. I never knew it had that characteristic before. M Link to Post - Back to Top 74.61.72.115http://www.lhnn.proboards107.com/index.cgi cindy Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Singapore Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #17 on Aug 8, 2007, 1:57pm » Thanks, Fauzi. MT has been out of the species and since you have it, she is making the effort to buy it for me. I can't wait for the plant to arrive! Link to Post - Back to Top 165.21.154.73 fauzi Advisor - Nepenthes member is offline Joined: Feb 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 96 Location: Ampang, Selangor, Malaysia Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #18 on Aug 8, 2007, 9:55pm » Hi, Below are the photos of N.adnata taken this morning as promised. The long vining of N.adnata - Age - almost 3 yrs old (Sorry - photo is not very good) The upper pitcher The flower The lower pitcher Link to Post - Back to Top 60.53.43.182Nepenthes - unique plant for unique individual www.dapat.net/4zeplant rainforestguy Senior Member member is offline Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 386 Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #19 on Aug 11, 2007, 6:46am » I hope they are all seed origin plants. That's a treasure if they are! All one of a kind. Make seeds too! M Link to Post - Back to Top 74.61.72.115 |
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Re: Tarence: Cultivation of N. adnata
cindy
Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Singapore Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #20 on Aug 14, 2007, 5:04pm » Thanks, Fauzi and Clare! Here are pics of my N. adnata. It currently at a corner of my rack under low light. Link to Post - Back to Top 165.21.154.117 artificialive Pioneer Member / Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 713 Location: Ayer Keroh, Malacca Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #21 on Aug 14, 2007, 5:16pm » Im sure the adnata will be very happy, having u as its master, Cindy « Last Edit: Aug 14, 2007, 9:26pm by artificialive »Link to Post - Back to Top 60.52.175.33[Naj Grow List] --- [Naj Wanted List] Robert Advisor - Nepenthes member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 584 Location: Sarawak,Malaysian Borneo Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #22 on Aug 14, 2007, 5:22pm » cindy,your new babe? If someone show me this plant without telling the name i would say it's fusca Link to Post - Back to Top 124.82.25.22 cindy Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Singapore Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #23 on Aug 14, 2007, 5:54pm » Robert, you sure? Btw, does N. fusca got hairy leaves? Link to Post - Back to Top 165.21.154.114 tarence Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #24 on Aug 15, 2007, 11:02am » my n.fusca ain`t got hairy leaves. smooth as a baby`s bottom. but yah, d.adnata does look quite similiar to n.fusca at first glance. similiar marking on the pitcher but diff mouth side profile tho. Link to Post - Back to Top 211.25.130.42 artificialive Pioneer Member / Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 713 Location: Ayer Keroh, Malacca Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #25 on Aug 15, 2007, 11:26am » i think it should be n. adnata, Tarence Link to Post - Back to Top 60.52.175.33[Naj Grow List] --- [Naj Wanted List] kltower Pioneer Member member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 195 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #26 on Aug 15, 2007, 11:28am » Actually, when they are young, most nepenthes pitchers looks alike. But one way of differentiating the two species is by the leaves. Choong Link to Post - Back to Top 60.48.198.51 tarence Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #27 on Aug 15, 2007, 3:45pm » haha Naj, mixed up the CP species already. thx.....n.adnata it is....noted. Link to Post - Back to Top 211.25.130.42 Robert Advisor - Nepenthes member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 584 Location: Sarawak,Malaysian Borneo Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #28 on Aug 15, 2007, 6:14pm » Quote:my n.fusca ain`t got hairy leaves. smooth as a baby`s bottom. but yah, d.adnata does look quite similiar to n.fusca at first glance. similiar marking on the pitcher but diff mouth side profile tho. certainly the fusca that i had was hairy from the underside of leaves.Hairs are brownish,very fine and short.No pitcher forming yet. Link to Post - Back to Top 60.52.4.139 lisham Senior Member member is offline Joined: Jun 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 393 Location: Langkawi Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #29 on Aug 15, 2007, 7:38pm » n. adnata is super kawaii! I got mine from Fauzi and it dropped it's pitchers due to the climate change me think... The 1 and only budding pitcher got snapped into 2. A month or so then it put out a new leaf... Now I'm keeping them in shaded area of my very confined balcony on the moist side. With or without pitchers... N. adnata is cute cute... Link to Post - Back to Top 60.48.244.76 cindy Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Singapore Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #30 on Aug 15, 2007, 7:58pm » So D. adnata is like a stunted fusca.... Robert, the D. adnata has got short brown hairs along the margin of the leaves. Link to Post - Back to Top 165.21.154.14 fauzi Advisor - Nepenthes member is offline Joined: Feb 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 96 Location: Ampang, Selangor, Malaysia Re: Cultivation of N. adnata « Reply #31 on Aug 15, 2007, 10:57pm » Hi Cindy and Lisham. I am so happy that all the N.adnata are in good hands. Hope they will pitcher more and more. For Lisham, I hope that all the plants are doing well after few months of acclimatization at their new home ...... in Langkawi Island. Thanks Fauzi Link to Post - Back to Top 60.53.46.192Nepenthes - unique plant for unique individual www.dapat.net/4zeplant |
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