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David: Byblis liniflora
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Administrator  member is offline   Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male  Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur  Byblis liniflora« Thread Started on Mar 6, 2007, 6:40pm » Ok, Zak. You said to take some pictures of my byblis. Here are the pictures...    Link to Post - Back to Top  LoggedMy Wantlist cactusttsPioneer Member / Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 584 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #1 on Mar 6, 2007, 7:59pm » Wah, it's getting much bigger since I last saw it! Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedTS zakhrenSenior Member  member is offline  I'm back! Joined: Feb 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 473 Location: Subang Jaya, SS19 Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #2 on Mar 6, 2007, 9:27pm » Ah yes just as pretty as I remember~ I so want one haha. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged DavidAdministrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #3 on Mar 8, 2007, 1:44pm » See the gowing tip! see the growing tips. You can see a flower bud coming up. When I get home today the flower bud would have blossomed. It is blue colour Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist cactusttsPioneer Member / Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 584 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #4 on Mar 8, 2007, 11:47pm » Congratulations, David. Any pollinator or it will pollinate itself? Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedTS artificialivePioneer Member / Global Moderator member is offline   Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 713 Location: Ayer Keroh, Malacca Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #5 on Mar 9, 2007, 12:03am » Wow David, now i envy u! haha Link to Post - Back to Top Logged[Naj Grow List] --- [Naj Wanted List] DavidAdministrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #6 on Mar 9, 2007, 8:53am » Quote:Congratulations, David. Any pollinator or it will pollinate itself? According to savage garden it will polinate itself but will produce better seed set if we tease the flowers a little with a toothpick. Can't do that. When I got hoem the flower already close. Same as the intermedia plant I have. The flowers seems to only last a day and closes at night. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist 3sgjefferyGuest Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #7 on Mar 9, 2007, 10:46am » Wah Envy Is it a difficult plant to grow? Link to Post - Back to Top Logged DavidAdministrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #8 on Mar 9, 2007, 5:21pm » Seems prety easy to me. But I read that they do not like to be disturb or transplanted. They die from shock easily. So far, I've tried as much as possible not to touch it or move it around. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist DavidAdministrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #9 on Mar 30, 2007, 10:29pm » Updates on the flower stalk. It has given me some seeds. It made my day. The plant has almost doubled in size since those pictures that were taken above this thread. There are three plants in the pot and two are flowering perfusely. However, the funny thing is a few other flower has died. I waited and the flower stalk also turned brown and died.  So no seeds from these.I think I must tease the flowers a little to make sure they produce seeds. Problem is the flowers only open for a few hours in the morning. Tomorrow is a holiday. I'll try and see if the few flowers on the plant now will give me more seeds. Love this plant! It is continuously producing flowers every week. There are at least about 5 flowers on the 2 plants now. Will keep you guys updated. Maybe can offer some seeds to forum members if there's a lot.  But I suspect there will be since it keeps giving out flowers. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist zakhrenSenior Member member is offline I'm back! Joined: Feb 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 473 Location: Subang Jaya, SS19 Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #10 on Mar 30, 2007, 11:15pm » I want~ Are they perrenials or annuals? Do they need dormancy? Either way I want some hehe. Sorry if I sound greedy~ Btw, I read this one wiki : "The pollen release of B. gigantea and B. lamellata is only triggered by the resonance frequency of a landing pollinator, helping ensure cross-pollination with other individuals." Maybe it's similar for liniflora? « Last Edit: Mar 30, 2007, 11:19pm by zakhren »Link to Post - Back to Top Logged DavidAdministrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #11 on Mar 30, 2007, 11:23pm » You make me laugh Zak!They are actually annuals growing during the rainy season. But where they grow, there will be a season of dry spell and the plants die off. When the rainy season arrive again the seeds sprout into new plants. However, in our hot tropical climate, it can be kept alive for 2-3 years if it's media is always kept wet. Do not let it dry out of the plants will die thinking that drought has arrived. It will flower profusely throughout it lifespan and grow from seed to adult in a matter of months. I realised the pot I use is too small for the three plants I have in there. The roots are growing out of the pot. So when you grow them from seeds make sure the pot is big enough. I'll have some seeds to spare when the next flower gives me seeds. Will post on the forum Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist DavidAdministrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #12 on Mar 30, 2007, 11:26pm » Peter D'Amato says that for liniflora, it will self polinate when the flower dies. Afterall the first flower gave me some seeds by itself. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist zakhrenSenior Member member is offline I'm back! Joined: Feb 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 473 Location: Subang Jaya, SS19 Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #13 on Mar 30, 2007, 11:30pm » I book seeds! Haha sorry again~ Well since it's an annual I can grow it in my tank But I will keep some in a pot, wet all the time to get as many seeds as I can. Then If I get too many i'll start giving them away hehe. They'll be like little trees in my tank heheOh how much sun do they like? I hope it's full sun. « Last Edit: Mar 30, 2007, 11:36pm by zakhren »Link to Post - Back to Top Logged DavidAdministrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #14 on Mar 30, 2007, 11:43pm » They should be able to take full sun like sundews. However, mine is grown under artificial lights. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist zakhrenSenior Member member is offline I'm back! Joined: Feb 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 473 Location: Subang Jaya, SS19 Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #15 on Mar 30, 2007, 11:46pm » Ok good. Because my tank has flytraps and they need that light. The medium stays really wet if I water it every morning. I just put 3 flytraps into the tank medium tonight actually Link to Post - Back to Top Logged cactusttsPioneer Member / Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 584 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #16 on Mar 31, 2007, 12:20am » Count me in for the seeds, David. Will be happy to grow that little Christmas tree! Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedTS cosmokingFull Member  member is offline  Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 186 Location: Bristol, United Kingdom Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #17 on Apr 11, 2007, 6:13am » To keep them alive for ages you'l need a big pot. They will do very well in full sun, lots of people grow them that way here  Link to Post - Back to Top Logged 3sgjefferyGuest Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #18 on Apr 11, 2007, 9:43am » BIG POT? Full Sun? they can? In Singapore or Malaysia?? Link to Post - Back to Top Logged zakhrenSenior Member member is offline I'm back! Joined: Feb 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 473 Location: Subang Jaya, SS19 Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #19 on Apr 11, 2007, 11:31am » Well their natural habitat is north australia and lower indonesia. Gets pretty sunny there. 
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Re: David: Byblis liniflora
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Administrator  member is offline  Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male  Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur  Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #20 on Jun 7, 2007, 7:54am » Just to share some updated pictures of my B. liniflora. The tallest plant has branch out in two places and there's flowers everywhere...    Link to Post - Back to Top  LoggedMy Wantlist bifurcatumSenior Member  member is online  Joined: Jan 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 381 Location: Batu Pahat, Johor Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #21 on Jun 7, 2007, 8:58am » so nice. Do your b.liniflora still produce seeds .:-[ Link to Post - Back to Top Logged khairimhdFull Member  member is offline Joined: May 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 128 Location: Klang Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #22 on Jun 7, 2007, 10:41am » walla wei David, so showy lah your B. liniflora ! Link to Post - Back to Top Loggedhttp://tangansejuk.blogspot.com/ tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #23 on Jun 7, 2007, 11:56am » Very very gorgeous & showy. I hope mine will become like yours one fine day. You said it grows very fast rite ? Congrats...... Our challenge ( those planting outdoors ) will be how to protect it from the outside elements. But i guess it ain`t as fragile as it looks. As with most CPs, they are a lot tougher than we give them credit for. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged holttumiiNew Member  member is offline Joined: May 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 46 Location: Selangor, Malaysia Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #24 on Jun 8, 2007, 12:43am » Wow, the plant is so fantastic. David, do you have seeds to spare  . Link to Post - Back to Top Logged DavidAdministrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #25 on Jun 8, 2007, 8:46am » Quote:so nice. Do your b.liniflora still produce seeds .:-[ Yes it does. Just look at the amount of flowers. It flowers and produce seeds continuously. Those whose seeds have germinated will have tons of seeds when the plant grow up. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist DavidAdministrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #26 on Jun 8, 2007, 8:49am » Quote: walla wei David, so showy lah your B. liniflora ! Tun, you're gonna get a couple of dozen plants this size, that beautiful in a few months time. Patience... you lucky fella, 90% germination on the seeds. I think all of us are waiting for your post on how you did it. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist DavidAdministrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #27 on Jun 8, 2007, 8:54am » Quote:Very very gorgeous & showy. I hope mine will become like yours one fine day. You said it grows very fast rite ? Congrats...... Our challenge ( those planting outdoors ) will be how to protect it from the outside elements. But i guess it ain`t as fragile as it looks. As with most CPs, they are a lot tougher than we give them credit for. Yes Tarence, it matures within a few months and start producing flowers and seeds just within a few months of germination. I guess it should be ok since they grow in the wild under all the natural elements. But sometimes I wonder. The stem seems very soft and thin. And it produces alot of sticky glue when showered. I showered mine a few weeks back the whole plant fell flat on the media and it produces lots of sticky dews. It's like the whole plant is filled with glue. All the leaves was stuck together in a clump. What a mess. I had to unglue its leaves one by one. But I realised after 1-2 days some of the leaves unglued itself. Still some others need a little help from me. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist DavidAdministrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #28 on Jun 8, 2007, 8:56am » Quote:Wow, the plant is so fantastic. David, do you have seeds to spare . Mail me an envelop and stamp.  Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #29 on Jun 8, 2007, 9:17am » [\quote] All the leaves was stuck together in a clump. What a mess. I had to unglue its leaves one by one. But I realised after 1-2 days some of the leaves unglued itself. Still some others need a little help from me. [/quote] I am beginning to get a visual of what my adult Byblis would look like in continuous heavy rain......not good ! Heheh. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged holttumiiNew Member member is offline Joined: May 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 46 Location: Selangor, Malaysia Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #30 on Jun 8, 2007, 2:02pm » Thank you, David. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged bifurcatumSenior Member member is online Joined: Jan 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 381 Location: Batu Pahat, Johor Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #31 on Jun 8, 2007, 9:12pm » Thanks David  ! Will send the stamp and envel.op Link to Post - Back to Top Logged khairimhdFull Member member is offline Joined: May 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 128 Location: Klang Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #32 on Jun 14, 2007, 4:20pm » Dato D, They 're still too small to take photo. My 'cap ayam' camera can't focus the tiny seedlings. Will take photo when they grow big a bit, hopefully nothing bad happen to my seedling la. Regards Khairimhd Link to Post - Back to Top Loggedhttp://tangansejuk.blogspot.com/ DavidAdministrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #33 on Jun 14, 2007, 10:56pm » No problem Tun Khairi  Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist lishamSenior Member member is offline Joined: Jun 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 393 Location: Langkawi Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #34 on Jun 29, 2007, 1:14am » wonderful plant! Sum info about this plant. <nostalgic background music starts here >Byblis contains 2 species b. liniflora and b. gigantae (b. gigantae found only in Western Australia and B. liniflora is common to the three northern states of Australia and New Guinea). It's a member of Biblidaceae family, this genus was named in 1908 by R.A. Salisbury after Byblys, the Greek Nymph who fell in love with her brother, I repeat, she fell in love with her brother (gasp, choke, groan). Byblys' love was unrequited ; she hanged herself and was turned into a fountain- Now the connection- it is the droplets of water that make the story association relevant. After 31 years, John Lindley published the second species in this genus- B. gigantae. <nostalgic background music ends here> My question, 1. Is it difficult to maintain? 2. Is it expensive? 3.Where can I get my hands on one of these? Link to Post - Back to Top Logged tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #35 on Jun 29, 2007, 9:44am » David grows it under growlights in his apartment. The rest of us just started germinating the CP. So far, it`s been fine. They are fast growers. David is selling the seeds at 25 for rm10. You can PM him or look under the stuff for sale section..... Link to Post - Back to Top Logged lishamSenior Member member is offline Joined: Jun 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 393 Location: Langkawi Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #36 on Jul 2, 2007, 2:20am » wokehs... TQ... RM10 for 25 seeds? How bout RM10 for 3" "****es" ? Just asking.... Link to Post - Back to Top Logged DavidAdministrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #37 on Jul 2, 2007, 9:20am » Hi Lisham, At the moment I do not have baby plantlets for sale. Perhaps you can check with the other members as I know a few of them have plantlets from the seeds I gave them. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #38 on Jul 2, 2007, 10:39am » Errr....from our limited knowledge on biblis, ( from savage garden book ), it seems that their roots are very sensitive, any slight movement might kill it. So i wouldn`t recommend shipping over Biblis. Go for the seeds lah. It will germinate ! At least it did for almost all of us ( except for David himself & Zak ) Link to Post - Back to Top Logged artificialivePioneer Member / Global Moderator member is offline  Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 713 Location: Ayer Keroh, Malacca Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #39 on Jul 2, 2007, 11:16am » Tarence, and me too (didnt germinate)
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Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #40 on Jul 2, 2007, 1:22pm » Mine did, so did Ts punya...even mukaketupat`s ( Ezrena ) ......bujangteruna also.....who else did David give seeds to ? Wilson ? Strange yah yg x germinate.... *hmmmm* Link to Post - Back to Top Logged DavidAdministrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #41 on Jul 2, 2007, 1:49pm » That's the irony of it! I give out seeds and most of them germinated for the recipients. But none germinated for me. Sad laaa... Tried all kinds of ways but no success. By the way, I post somewhere last week that one of the byblis seed germinated for me. Well it turned out it's a weed and not a byblis plant... Feel like someone just slapped me silly here! « Last Edit: Jul 2, 2007, 1:49pm by David »Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #42 on Jul 2, 2007, 2:12pm » Use magnifying glass lah David to identify the seedlings. I do. Coz when they are small, it`s pretty difficult. Mine already has branches....but still small. The d.intermedia & d.burmanii seeds I got from you also sprouted...Unfortunately I put them in the same pot so I can`t tell the diff yet...got many many lil` ones though. Up to now, still microscopic. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged DavidAdministrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #43 on Jul 2, 2007, 2:17pm » I had a magnifying glass with me leh. So far only one burmanii seed germinated for me out of the hundreds I sowed. The intermedia, nothing! Another sad case. Another slap on the other side of my cheek. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist jonathanSenior Member member is offline   Joined: May 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 357 Location: sg buloh Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #44 on Jul 17, 2007, 3:14pm » Dear all.... Hi everyone... here i have something to share in germination of Byblis seeds.... I've found a way to germinate Byblis seeds in 3 days.... ( For me that is... ) 1) Fresh Byblis seeds ( From David ) 2) mix 10% of bleach in 100% of water ( i tough it was 1% bleach - 100% water at first until david says it was not ) soak the seeds in the mixture untill it turns white ( it takes about 6 hour for me ) 3) sprinkle the seeds on the media and put on water tray water level reach the top part of media and put it under full sun.... 4) check on it after 3 days to see did it germinate.... you sould see some tiny roots... Ok guys and gals for me in 10 days i have some 3-5mm plantlet.... Take care and good luck everyone... Best Regards Jonathan Link to Post - Back to Top Logged A dangerous plant and yet so unique and extraordinary... carnivorous plants..... David Administrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #45 on Jul 17, 2007, 3:16pm » Thanks Jonathan for sharing your experience with us. Really appreciate it. I am waiting for the new seed pods to ripen so I can try this out on the seeds. But I must say to you again that 3 days germination is record breaking. It is an achievement you can be proud of. Hopefully some seeds will germinate for me with your method. Thanks for the baby plantlets too. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist jonathanSenior Member member is offline Joined: May 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 357 Location: sg buloh Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #46 on Jul 17, 2007, 3:22pm » Hi David.... You are most welcome my friend...... now is my turn to thank you for all the beautiful plants that you have gave me and those seeds too... i'm very very very sorry david that i have killed the little green amps that you gave me this sunday...... i have killed my first nep...... dunno why just everything goes wrong nowdays.... lastly thank you david for all the support and encouragement while i'm in trouble and for all those great advice..... Best Regards Jonathan Link to Post - Back to Top Logged A dangerous plant and yet so unique and extraordinary... carnivorous plants..... David Administrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #47 on Jul 17, 2007, 4:15pm » What happened to the green ampullaria? How did it died? ... It's ok lah. Don worry about it. And don't give up growing these wonders of nature just because of these few bumps in your way. « Last Edit: Jul 17, 2007, 4:18pm by David »Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist jonathanSenior Member member is offline Joined: May 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 357 Location: sg buloh Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #48 on Jul 17, 2007, 6:09pm » I also dunno what happen.... thanks for everything david.... I won't give up.... but also don't wanna be a neps killer.... hehe... Link to Post - Back to Top Logged A dangerous plant and yet so unique and extraordinary... carnivorous plants..... cosmoking Full Member member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 186 Location: Bristol, United Kingdom Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #49 on Jul 17, 2007, 9:23pm » Ive had no germination either, I just cant seem to germinate any Byblis seed at all  Link to Post - Back to Top Logged DavidAdministrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #50 on Jul 17, 2007, 9:52pm » Don't give up yet cosmo. The mother plant that I have now are from seeds I've bought from an online nursery. It took about 3 months if I remember correctly before it germinated. And that also 3 out of 100 over seeds. Let us all try the tactic used by Jonathan and report back to this thread on the progress. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist jonathanSenior Member member is offline Joined: May 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 357 Location: sg buloh Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #51 on Jul 18, 2007, 1:10am » Hi cosmo.... Don't worried... keep trying... one day you will see those wonder in nature to surprise you with lot's of baby Byblis... i can't describe how happy i was that day when i see those beautiful baby Byblis.... i get around 70% germination..... god blessed me with a bunch of baby... hehe.... David the second batch of seeds have been killed by those green thing that grow..... algae ... hate those disgusting green slime................................... from now on only use good quality mosses...... hehe... but i still have 3 Byblis..... in no time i'll build up a Byblis forest.... dreaming of it.......... Best Regards Jonathan Link to Post - Back to Top Logged A dangerous plant and yet so unique and extraordinary... carnivorous plants..... caseyhoo Full Member member is offline Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 217 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #52 on Aug 9, 2007, 10:14am » My Byblis liniflora at 13 days, can you see it ? thanx David for the seeds  « Last Edit: Aug 9, 2007, 10:16am by caseyhoo »Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedBest Regards,KC Hoo Wanted List They are nice : D. aliciae, D. brevicornis, D. derbyensis, D. falconeri, D. lanata, D. villosa, D. lowriei, D. menziesii cindy Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Singapore Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #53 on Aug 9, 2007, 2:19pm » I read through the posts and a few questions popped up. What media did you all sow your seeds on? Do you think media made a difference? How fresh is fresh i.e. did everyone sow about the same time since the seeds came from David? And how were the seeds stored for some of you who sowed them later? Fridge? Room temperature? A hot place? Does it matter how the seeds are formed? That is, how David tease the flower. And do it matter when seeds are being collected? When the capsule splits or before the capsule splits? I manually pollinate the flowers and get about 40+ seeds per fruit. But out of hundreds of seeds so far only about 15 germinated. Fortunately, this species flower all the time and seeds are easy to collect. Somehow, there is a trigger for seed germination even for liniflora and even overseas growers are baffled how the same batch of seeds can have very different germination rates with different growers. I have tried the 10% chlorine and 100% water method but the germination rate is still low. But that is only with one batch of seeds. There was one seed that germinated in my Nep pot and as far as I can remember, I didn't even sow it there. It must have fallen in from the pot of Byblis several months before. So nowadays, I kind of recycle my Byblis pots 'cos there might be seeds that will germinate somewhere down the line. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged DavidAdministrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #54 on Aug 9, 2007, 6:57pm » I sow my seeds in various media just to test out. ie. choped up sphagnum moss, peat moss, peat moss + perlite. So far not enough germination to text out which media is best. By the way, tried Jonathan's method with bleach. It germintaed it a week for me. 7 plantlets out of about 20 seeds. Before this, zero germination for me. Nope, don think so everyone sow their seeds the same time. Most probably a few days to a week difference. I store the seeds in the fridge before sending it out. I manually take two flowers and rub their anthlers together. There's about 40 -50 seeds in each pod. I usually collect the seeds on the day the seed pod crack open. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #55 on Aug 9, 2007, 10:41pm » here`s mine.....it`s very very old ( 3 months, heheh ) but small coz i did not give it enuff sun...so at nearly 3 inches high how, it`s already flowering....stunted byblis.  « Last Edit: Aug 9, 2007, 10:50pm by tarence »Link to Post - Back to Top Logged cindyGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Singapore Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #56 on Aug 10, 2007, 12:23am » Thanks, David for replying to some of my questions. I have given away all my seeds but I will try Jonathan's method again the next time. By the way, did you try it on freshly collected seeds or the ones stored in the fridge? And how long approximately were they stored there? Link to Post - Back to Top Logged jonathanSenior Member member is offline Joined: May 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 357 Location: sg buloh Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #57 on Aug 10, 2007, 12:58am » Dear everyone... I found the bleach method also works with other drosera's seeds... i get 20 germination out of 20 D. Intermedia seeds in a week... the rest that i sow just like that withour the bleach treatment actually have 2 germination in 3 weeks.... i would say that this method will give you a higher germination rate but for me so far from D.Intermedia i get 100% of germination... Take good care everyone and happy planting... Best Regards Jonathan Link to Post - Back to Top Logged A dangerous plant and yet so unique and extraordinary... carnivorous plants..... David Administrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #58 on Aug 10, 2007, 9:09am » Quote:By the way, did you try it on freshly collected seeds or the ones stored in the fridge? And how long approximately were they stored there? With the bleach, I've only tried with freshly collected seeds. Before I started to use bleach, I tried all kinds of ways, Kept them in the firdge for a week, 2 weeks and 1 month. Also tried startification on them. Tried sowing them immediately after I collected them form the seed pod, tried leaving them in the open seed pod for a week before harvesting them and sowing them, etc, etc... headache... none work. Only those seeds I send out to forum members germinated. Without bleach, some of the seeds germinated for some people. So this means for byblis to germinate we need to send it via snail mail... haa, haa, just kidding. Don know laa, maybe after removing them from the fridge, we should keep it outside for a few days before sowing them as that is about the time the post office takes to deliver to forum members. Seem to have some germination. I've ran out of ideas, but using bleach seems to be more reliable. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist caseyhooFull Member member is offline Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 217 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #59 on Aug 10, 2007, 9:47am » This is my 1st time germinate CP, can I share my method? In my case, I straight away sow them to blended S. moss. So far (days 14), 1 or 5 seed germinated.  « Last Edit: Aug 10, 2007, 9:48am by caseyhoo »
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Re: David: Byblis liniflora
cindy
Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Singapore Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #60 on Aug 10, 2007, 9:53am » Quote:So this means for byblis to germinate we need to send it via snail mail... haa, haa, just kidding. Don know laa, maybe after removing them from the fridge, we should keep it outside for a few days before sowing them as that is about the time the post office takes to deliver to forum members. Seem to have some germination David, it is not a joke. Some Byblis growers overseas actually leave their seeds outside at room temperature for a few weeks before sowing. Some guy left his packet out accidentally and they germinated very well for him. But if the bleach works better or at least consistently, just do it.  Link to Post - Back to Top Logged caseyhooFull Member member is offline  Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 217 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #61 on Aug 13, 2007, 2:06pm » Quote:This is my 1st time germinate CP, can I share my method? In my case, I straight away sow them to blended S. moss. So far (days 14), 1 or 5 seed germinated. Today is day 17 since I sow the seed. The plant is producing 3 stem. Can I remove the plastic? The things that I scare is rain... Can Byblis liniflora expose to rain? « Last Edit: Aug 13, 2007, 2:54pm by caseyhoo »Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedBest Regards,KC Hoo Wanted List They are nice : D. aliciae, D. brevicornis, D. derbyensis, D. falconeri, D. lanata, D. villosa, D. lowriei, D. menziesii David Administrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #62 on Aug 13, 2007, 4:40pm » I think if you want to remove the plastic cover, do it gradually so that the plantlets can acclimatise to the lower hunidity. Better shade them from the rain. They're too small to take a droplet of water about 5 times their size splashing on top of them. Might breack their fragile thin stems. Even for my adult plant, I do not water from the top. Once I took it to the bathroom to give it a shower. It produces alot of dews and all the leaves stuck together. The whole plant fell flat on the media. I thought I killed it. Lucky didn't die. Then I thought the leaves would naturally release themselves from beihg stuck together. Did not happen. I had to pry open each leave. Those that were allowed to dry out was quite difficult to separate. So better not let it get rain laa. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #63 on Aug 13, 2007, 10:33pm » Casey : i leave my tiny small stem one in the open with a small loose plastic cover on top, so that the byblis would get fresh air and sunshine. don`t make the same mistake as me in keeping the byblis away from direct sunlite for too long coz it`ll be stunted. Mine is flowering at 3 " coz it`s an old plant despite the size.....happy growing. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged caseyhooFull Member member is offline Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 217 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #64 on Aug 13, 2007, 11:22pm » Thanx for imformation. I think im going to DIY a plastic cover that made by taufufa mug, with some hole at side of it... to protect my lovely plant from rain. Cheers... Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedBest Regards,KC Hoo Wanted List They are nice : D. aliciae, D. brevicornis, D. derbyensis, D. falconeri, D. lanata, D. villosa, D. lowriei, D. menziesii mukaketupat New Member  member is offline Joined: May 2007 Posts: 26 Location: petaling jaya, malaysia Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #65 on Aug 14, 2007, 11:12am » hi guys i got my liniflora seeds from david. and how its quite besar already and flowering. the thing is, mine is scrambling all over. it grows upwards but to the sides. very weird. and im thinking of repotting because the pot seems too small for it. has anyone ever done this? sorry no photo but will post that up soon.Link to Post - Back to Top Logged tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #66 on Aug 14, 2007, 1:37pm » Ezrena : the roots quite delicate. David has repotted his with the attitude `die die lah` coz his pot was too cramped for the 3 byblis. his was a success story. try to re-pot with minimal or no root disturbance at all. i repotted my tiny one without any problems at all. David : comment ? Link to Post - Back to Top Logged DavidAdministrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #67 on Aug 14, 2007, 2:11pm » Ezrena, it is normal for byblis to tilt sideways. As they grow larger they will fall on the ground. In the wild they rest on other plants and scramble on the ground. My plant looks upwards because I made a support for the stem from straws. Even so, it is too high now for the suppoert and it has bent over. So it is normal. I use a sharp scissors to cut the pot from top to bottom and tear open the plastic. From there I lift the potting media and plant from the pot without disturbing the roots and media. Then I just place it in a bigger pot and fill up the gaps with more potting media. Make sure the stem don't bend over. It is very thin and tend to do this. I thought I killed mine when it fell on the media after I moved it. But lucky it's still alive. The stems seems very soft and flexible, but don bet on it. Just be careful. « Last Edit: Aug 14, 2007, 2:14pm by David »Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist cindyGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Singapore Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #68 on Aug 14, 2007, 7:07pm » I've repotted only seedlings. In fact, I am quite in the habit of repotting them because I sow all the seeds into one pot. When one seed germinates, I'll remove it. Errmm...I think the tallest I've repotted is about an inch. Young adults? Don't try unless you are just removing the whole chuck of media and putting it into a larger pot like David described. I've brought a Byblis plant for display at the Singapore Garden Festival last year. It was pretty long and was flopping over. I made a loop with the lower part of the stem, bury it under sphagnum moss and ta-da! it stood vertical. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged DavidAdministrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #69 on Aug 15, 2007, 9:23am » What I do is similar to Cindy. When the plants are small, I place them in a pot with the media only up to 2/3 of the pot. As the plant gets bigger, the side of the pots actually help support the plant. Later on I just add more media until the brim of the pot when the plant gets taller. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist DavidAdministrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #70 on Aug 15, 2007, 9:26am » Perhaps now when it gets even taller, I'll use Cindy's suggestion. Make a loop on the stem and cover it with potting media. Actually come to think about it, their vines are quite flexible huh and it does not kill the plant even when it is bend suddenly. Cool. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #71 on Aug 15, 2007, 9:34am » they have in-built gymnast genes.... Link to Post - Back to Top Logged lishamSenior Member member is offline Joined: Jun 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 393 Location: Langkawi Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #72 on Aug 15, 2007, 1:35pm » from your description... not gymnasts genes la.... more like yoga people person... Link to Post - Back to Top Logged mukaketupatNew Member member is offline Joined: May 2007 Posts: 26 Location: petaling jaya, malaysia Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #73 on Aug 17, 2007, 12:34pm » wow. thanks guys. david, i will try your method! Link to Post - Back to Top Logged cindyGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Singapore Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #74 on Aug 29, 2007, 6:08pm » I am finally allowing the plants to flower!      Link to Post - Back to Top Logged tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #75 on Aug 29, 2007, 6:20pm » Just lovely Cindy...just curious, why weren`t they allowed to flower before this ? Link to Post - Back to Top Logged cindyGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Singapore Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #76 on Aug 29, 2007, 8:32pm » I have got this theory that they should only be allowing to flower when they are old enough so that the quality of seeds is good. I do that with all my sundews except D. burmannii which pops up everywhere. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged DavidAdministrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #77 on Aug 30, 2007, 9:24am » Cindy, what media are you using for your byblis? Looks kinda whitish and I can't really see clearly on the picture. Is that perlite? You are right about the seeds. I allow my plants to flower when they are very young but I realised the seed pods are really tiny and seeds are tiny too. Don't seem to me that they will germinate. Some seedd pods do not have seeds at all too. But when the plants get bigger, the seeds seems to be stronger. « Last Edit: Aug 30, 2007, 9:26am by David »Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #78 on Aug 30, 2007, 9:56am » Alas, i waited until my binata was about 5 inches before I allowed it to flower. The flower stalk grew up to max height about 7 inches, started to develop flower buds...then dried up ! aiya ! the plant itself seems to be a little affected by the effort in producing the pre-buds but otherwise fine. Was so looking forward to see the flowers itself. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged cindyGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Singapore Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #79 on Aug 30, 2007, 11:07am » David, the best seeds are inbetween. The ones in the beginning are not so good...towards the end too. Btw, that's fine sand. Tarence, D. binata does not form seeds on its own. You need to use pollen from another form. Flowering tires the plant so after one time and plenty of photos later, I cut all flower buds.
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Re: David: Byblis liniflora
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Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: Byblis liniflora« Reply #80 on Aug 30, 2007, 11:40am » Yep, aware of that...was trying to either use pollen from my burmanii, spats, byblis, capensis etc etc which are currently flowering non-stop. was a bit scared of the results tho. imagine binata x capensis or worse, burmanii ? Brrrr.....like u, i wanted to see it once, take photo, then never again. i took the risk as i had baby binatas germinating already....my aim for all droseras is to at least see them flower once. *smile*
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