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tarence: N. northiana
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Global Moderator  member is offline   Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male  Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong  N.northiana« Thread Started on Jun 24, 2007, 11:34am »   After a couple of weeks of looking around, I finally found what I think to be limestone rocks & have repotted my n.northiana. I used a pot with holes to provide better aeration as I imagine the original location for this plant would be pretty airy & windy....i.e. cliffs....I`ve put some s/moss around the root areas for better moisture but will probably take it out once the plant stabilises. Do let me know if I could do anything better.   « Last Edit: Jun 24, 2007, 11:37am by tarence »Link to Post - Back to Top  203.106.139.218 isaacgohSenior Member  member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 503 Location: Antara Ipoh dan K. Lumpur Re: N.northiana« Reply #1 on Jun 24, 2007, 12:52pm » Tarence,My personal opinion is that the rocks you use in the pics could be too big. Anyway, just my own take on this. You can try and error I guess. Rgds, Isaac Link to Post - Back to Top 219.92.164.13 dingJunior Member  member is offline ding = pickjian  Joined: May 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 58 Location: Tg.malim - S'pore(Now) Re: N.northiana« Reply #2 on Jun 24, 2007, 12:59pm » Hi,i agree with isaacgoh too. besides, may be you can divide the plant into four for a higher chance of survivability! Link to Post - Back to Top 60.52.182.186 tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: N.northiana« Reply #3 on Jun 24, 2007, 11:22pm » Thx Isaac & Ding...appreciate your inputs......Btw, how would you imagine the n.northiana growing in the wild ? I only know it`s on limestone hills......and my fertile imagination is influencing me to `believe` that it virtually `hangs` on for dear life on these cliffs. Haha. Has anyone sighted pictures? Would be way cool to see them in the wild. Ding: there are actually 5 branches ! one is hidden. I`m so tempted to break them up but well....they seem to be pretty delicate. Also don`t want to wait for the cuttings to take root, recover etc as some of the leaves are already having pitchers.... it`s been a long, hard, winding road.......naw, just kidding..... Link to Post - Back to Top 210.186.51.184 dingJunior Member member is offline ding = pickjian Joined: May 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 58 Location: Tg.malim - S'pore(Now) Re: N.northiana« Reply #4 on Jun 28, 2007, 8:53pm » haha. it's up to you! hope that it won't give you any trouble. happy growing ya! Link to Post - Back to Top 202.136.29.6 RobertAdvisor - Nepenthes member is offline  Joined: Jan 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 584 Location: Sarawak,Malaysian Borneo Re: N.northiana« Reply #5 on Jun 28, 2007, 9:07pm » Tarence, try meristem propagation.It will not hurt the plant. Once rooted cut them off and you'll have another northiana  Link to Post - Back to Top 124.82.30.152 tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: N.northiana« Reply #6 on Jun 29, 2007, 9:31am » Have you tried it Robert ? Is the plant hormone essential in the technique ? I`m just starting to read articles on it....thx for the suggestion. Link to Post - Back to Top 203.106.226.24 RobertAdvisor - Nepenthes member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 584 Location: Sarawak,Malaysian Borneo Re: N.northiana« Reply #7 on Jun 29, 2007, 5:31pm » yes i have. Sometimes it doesn't root as the plant can heal the cuts by itself ie callus form over the cut area with no roots. The good thing is the section above the cut will not die. Under this situation make another fresh cut (if u wished to). Link to Post - Back to Top 124.82.20.186 tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: N.northiana« Reply #8 on Jun 30, 2007, 1:50pm » Ok, i`ll try it then if i`m feeling adventurous......Heheh. Link to Post - Back to Top 203.106.162.150 isaacgohSenior Member member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 503 Location: Antara Ipoh dan K. Lumpur Re: N.northiana« Reply #9 on Jul 19, 2007, 9:57am » Guys,How are your northies? Mine is growing very big now but still no pitchers!! The new leaves are much bigger, at least 10" size leaves(plant is more than 1 feet tall). All the leaves have a small pitcher bud at the end of the tip but they just would not grow into a pitcher for me. Wondering what I can do to have a northiana pitcher. Someone did tell me to give it more time because northies seems to be a sensitive type to its new surroundings. So, it's not advisable to move them around too much. Rgds, Isaac « Last Edit: Jul 19, 2007, 9:58am by isaacgoh »Link to Post - Back to Top 218.111.224.161 DavidAdministrator member is online   Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: N.northiana« Reply #10 on Jul 19, 2007, 10:31am » Mine is just stagnant in growth. Not getting bigger and no new leaves. Kinda like a plastic plants. Always green but no growth. But I have not given up on this "pet" of mine. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist isaacgohSenior Member member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 503 Location: Antara Ipoh dan K. Lumpur Re: N.northiana« Reply #11 on Jul 19, 2007, 10:36am » Quote:Mine is just stagnant in growth. Not getting bigger and no new leaves. Kinda like a plastic plants. Always green but no growth. But I have not given up on this "pet" of mine. David, I have two small northies that is the same batch as yours. I'm keeping them in my indoor tank. It's not growing too good but it's at least throwing new leaves once in a while with pitchers too. From my observation, they don't like too high humidity in the air. I think it's time for me to move them out slowly into the balcony. Rgds, Isaac Link to Post - Back to Top 218.111.224.161 DavidAdministrator member is online Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: N.northiana« Reply #12 on Jul 19, 2007, 10:49am » Eh, what media u use? I am using 2 parts perlite and 1 part coconut peat. Don't know if this works. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist isaacgohSenior Member member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 503 Location: Antara Ipoh dan K. Lumpur Re: N.northiana« Reply #13 on Jul 19, 2007, 11:25am » Quote:Eh, what media u use? I am using 2 parts perlite and 1 part coconut peat. Don't know if this works. Oh yeah, you reminded me. Maybe I should change the media for the northies plantlets but it's pity to remove the wonderful live peat moss already growing on it. I'm currently growing it with perlite with the thin top layer sphagnum moss. My big northy is growing very well with nursery clay soil mixed with lime stone aquarium pebbles. So, I should probably change the small plant's media to clay soil. If you ask me, coconut peat sounds like acidic in nature. Same goes for Sphaghum. Northies like alkaline media...Hmm.... « Last Edit: Jul 19, 2007, 11:26am by isaacgoh »Link to Post - Back to Top 218.111.224.161 DavidAdministrator member is online Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: N.northiana« Reply #14 on Jul 19, 2007, 12:08pm » Hmm, got to move my butt to search for soem alkaline media. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: N.northiana« Reply #15 on Jul 19, 2007, 1:25pm » David : you can have my limestone rocks on sunday.....since i changed the medium 3 weeks ago, my plant seems to be more vigorous...in producing dead leaves ! just kidding. the growth seems to be a little faster. you can try if you want. isaac : Liang told me that the pitcher gotta reach the ground or some support for it to grow properly or huge. i`ve seen pics of it in the wild. usually it rests on the ground as the pitchers are huge. Link to Post - Back to Top 203.106.226.24 DavidAdministrator member is online Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: N.northiana« Reply #16 on Jul 19, 2007, 1:31pm » Hey Tarence, you're back. Just posted in the interaction section telling members you will be on a short sabbathticla leave from the forum. Glad you are back. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist jonathanSenior Member member is offline  Joined: May 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 357 Location: sg buloh Re: N.northiana« Reply #17 on Jul 19, 2007, 3:00pm » Erm... when will i get to have my hand on a N. Northiana??? haiz.... haha.... but it's still great to hear story of them from you lucky guys.... Link to Post - Back to Top 60.52.197.74 A dangerous plant and yet so unique and extraordinary... carnivorous plants..... tarence Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: N.northiana« Reply #18 on Jul 20, 2007, 12:55pm » I`ll swing in the forum when I`m up to it David. thx.... Link to Post - Back to Top 203.106.226.24 rainforestguySenior Member member is offline Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 386 Re: N.northiana« Reply #19 on Jul 23, 2007, 10:51am » Greetings and salutations,I have a little comment regarding the northiana growing media. While they do grow above limestone base bedrock, many of them have a surface layer rich in composted, acidic peat-sphagnum. I have notice how these grow through the acidic supra-layers and have their root tips reach down deep into the lime below. This is very evident in many northiana hybrids (northiana x veitchii, Mixta, Cincta, etc.) where the roots grow profusely through a thick acidic base media, then when they hit deeper into the lime, they really take hold. An example I noticed is when I grow some of my plants in black plastic mesh pots pn top of a cement wall, the plants grow profusely until a specific point in time when the roots penetrate the cement wall. A noticeable change occurs and the plants take on a thicker, leathery appearance. Once I decided to repot a large Mixta, I noticed that the mesh pot was glued to the cement wall top. I was puzzled how this could happen. I finally got a machete and sliced through to separate the pot and wall and come to the surprise that a million tiny black roots had penetrated the wall's pores and entered a layer beneath the mesh pot. I did not have any lime or coral chips in the pot at the time this occurred. My conclusion is that the roots had penetrated that layer where the substrate was rather alkaline, even though the media where it grew was acidic. My idea is to add lime to the bottom most layer of your pot like a drainage material/crock and the roots will enter this zone andthe plant gets more robust. I have also seen this happen with a sub-genus of hoyas in the section Eriostemma where this group grows best in coral substrates. Once coral chips are added to their soil, the plant takes off and doesn't stop blooming. I would also be interested how coral in some soil types behave. I bet N. globosa, N. treubniana, insignis, etc. would behave similarly. 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Re: tarence: N. northiana
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Global Moderator  member is offline   Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male  Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong  Re: N.northiana« Reply #20 on Jul 23, 2007, 11:14am »   Thx for sharing Michael. Good to know your personal experience. At the moment, I `m still trying to locate limestone or coral chips. Apparently what I got the other day was merely granite. Everyone says go to construction site, can find at the roadside etc but we simply do not know for sure what limestone looks like. « Last Edit: Jul 23, 2007, 11:36am by tarence »Link to Post - Back to Top  203.106.226.24 isaacgohSenior Member  member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 503 Location: Antara Ipoh dan K. Lumpur Re: N.northiana« Reply #21 on Jul 23, 2007, 11:25am » Dear Michael,Thanks for sharing your insights. A big welcome to you too. Rgds, Isaac Link to Post - Back to Top 218.111.224.161 DavidAdministrator member is online  Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: N.northiana« Reply #22 on Jul 23, 2007, 11:33pm » Hi Michael! Welcome and thanks for the insight.  Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist rainforestguySenior Member member is offline Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 386 Re: N.northiana« Reply #23 on Jul 27, 2007, 2:14am » Anyone has a male N. northiana male in bloom?M Link to Post - Back to Top 74.61.72.115http://www.lhnn.proboards107.com/index.cgi sereeNew Member  member is offline Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 16 Location: Bangkok Thailand Re: N.northiana« Reply #24 on Aug 12, 2007, 2:15pm » My N. Northaina This image is reduced by 30%, click it to view full size.  This image is reduced by 30%, click it to view full size.  This image is reduced by 30%, click it to view full size.  « Last Edit: Aug 12, 2007, 2:47pm by seree »Link to Post - Back to Top 203.113.32.6 hongruiAdvisor - CP member is offline  CP addict  Joined: Jul 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 467 Location: Mandai, Singapore Re: N.northiana« Reply #25 on Aug 12, 2007, 9:06pm » nice! under what kind of light conditions do you grow the N. northiana? i have mine growing under shade now, but am wondering if they would do better with more sun? Link to Post - Back to Top 203.124.2.44looking for different forms of N. ampullaria, N. rafflesiana and N. xhookeriana.My CP Growlist - updated 27 May '08 seree New Member member is offline Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 16 Location: Bangkok Thailand Re: N.northiana« Reply #26 on Aug 13, 2007, 2:08am » I grow northaina in ful sun no wind and rain, soil have limestone and give (Ca2+) « Last Edit: Aug 13, 2007, 2:12am by seree »Link to Post - Back to Top 203.113.32.12 hongruiAdvisor - CP member is offline CP addict Joined: Jul 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 467 Location: Mandai, Singapore Re: N.northiana« Reply #27 on Aug 13, 2007, 8:05am » thanks! i guess i'll just keep it at where it is for another 6months or so before deciding to move it or not. Link to Post - Back to Top 203.124.2.43looking for different forms of N. ampullaria, N. rafflesiana and N. xhookeriana.My CP Growlist - updated 27 May '08 tarence Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: N.northiana« Reply #28 on Sept 2, 2007, 11:47am » here`s what my baby northiana looks like now after more than 2 months of re-potting using new medium of granite & vermaculite...there are tiny pitchers all over the place...the biggest being about 1 inch...i counted 7 pitchers....    « Last Edit: Sept 2, 2007, 11:49am by tarence »Link to Post - Back to Top 210.186.61.228 hongruiAdvisor - CP member is offline CP addict Joined: Jul 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 467 Location: Mandai, Singapore Re: N.northiana« Reply #29 on Sept 2, 2007, 10:22pm » wow tarence! i wonder how long i'll have to wait too see a single pitcher on my northiana Link to Post - Back to Top 203.124.2.41looking for different forms of N. ampullaria, N. rafflesiana and N. xhookeriana.My CP Growlist - updated 27 May '08 tarence Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: N.northiana« Reply #30 on Sept 3, 2007, 8:59am » i got mine as a very small plant about 14 months ago & it oredi had many offshoots then. it was just bought at a morning market in kuching by chua for rm8 i believe & we waited with bated breath to see of this plant could survive. Pitchers....we daren`t hope coz we kinda figured this nep was a lil` difficult to keep...but well, for rm8...why not try ? so finally after more than a year...it kinda decided to end the pitcherless period. mine currently gets direct morning sun from 8-11 a.m....the way i see it, that`s how it grows in the wild.... Good luck for yours hongrui.....it should pitcher eventually. « Last Edit: Sept 3, 2007, 9:00am by tarence »Link to Post - Back to Top 211.25.130.42 isaacgohSenior Member member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 503 Location: Antara Ipoh dan K. Lumpur Re: N.northiana« Reply #31 on Sept 3, 2007, 9:21am » Wow, lucky you Tarence. Rm8 is very cheap for a northiana.My big northiana female refuse to pitcher for me still. I'm happy just to see her throw out some big and nice leaves for now. Let her figure out when she will pitcher. However, my 2 northiana seedlings had a growth spurt recently and is throwing out pitchers too. Waiting for them to grow into a nice size to be transferred outdoor. Rgds, Isaac « Last Edit: Sept 3, 2007, 9:28am by isaacgoh »Link to Post - Back to Top 218.111.224.161 tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: N.northiana« Reply #32 on Sept 3, 2007, 9:46am » Good to know Isaac.....happy Northiana-ing.... Link to Post - Back to Top 211.25.130.42 isaacgohSenior Member member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 503 Location: Antara Ipoh dan K. Lumpur Re: N.northiana« Reply #33 on Sept 3, 2007, 10:05am » Quote:Good to know Isaac.....happy Northiana-ing.... Looking at your plant, I would be tempted to do a cutting seeing that it has a number of side shoots.  Link to Post - Back to Top 218.111.224.161 tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: N.northiana« Reply #34 on Sept 3, 2007, 10:16am » yeah i know....i`m so tempted too...David : did the cutting i gave you survive ? Link to Post - Back to Top 211.25.130.42 rainforestguySenior Member member is offline Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 386 Re: N.northiana« Reply #35 on Sept 4, 2007, 12:37am » I have found that N. northiana are water hogs. Give it ample water and allow the media to run freely with excess water every few days. This helps makes big pitchers and allows the plants to develop a better root system.M Link to Post - Back to Top 72.235.135.58http://www.lhnn.proboards107.com/index.cgi tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: N.northiana« Reply #36 on Sept 4, 2007, 8:52am » My current medium of granite rocks & vermaculite drains within 5 seconds or less I`m afraid...but I do make it a point of wetting the nep as much as I can...thx for tip.... Link to Post - Back to Top 211.25.130.42 DavidAdministrator member is online Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: N.northiana« Reply #37 on Sept 5, 2007, 9:16am » Quote:David : did the cutting i gave you survive ? Yaa, still "existing". Growth has been stagnant. Only recently it started to grow new leaves. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist isaacgohSenior Member member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 503 Location: Antara Ipoh dan K. Lumpur Re: N.northiana« Reply #38 on Sept 5, 2007, 10:32am » Quote: Quote:David : did the cutting i gave you survive ? Yaa, still "existing". Growth has been stagnant. Only recently it started to grow new leaves. David, How is your northiana seedling doing? Mine is doing quite well in my terrarium. I almost gave up on them. They like it moist but not soaking wet (no plate). Rgds, Isaac Link to Post - Back to Top 218.111.224.161 RobertAdvisor - Nepenthes member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 584 Location: Sarawak,Malaysian Borneo Re: N.northiana« Reply #39 on Sept 5, 2007, 10:35pm » well,Isaac what's wrong with your northiana? Link to Post - Back to Top 60.52.5.95
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Re: tarence: N. northiana
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Senior Member member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 503 Location: Antara Ipoh dan K. Lumpur Re: N.northiana« Reply #40 on Sept 6, 2007, 10:05am » Quote:well,Isaac what's wrong with your northiana? Big one no problem, just not pitchering yet. Small ones are doing well, no complaints because I can see they are growing bigger already. Maybe in another few weeks I'll take a picture of the ****es. Link to Post - Back to Top 218.111.224.161 cindyGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Singapore Re: N.northiana« Reply #41 on Sept 6, 2007, 10:41am » Anyone of you notice that the northiana puts out the pitcher only after several new leaves? My N. campanulata does that too. I look at the leaf tip and I tell yourself "Oh no, the tip is dead"...then 2-3 leaves later, this tip starts to balloon and develop into a pitcher. Link to Post - Back to Top 165.21.154.16 tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: N.northiana« Reply #42 on Sept 6, 2007, 10:51am » Gee, never noticed that Cindy. I`ll go & check later in the evening at home. Link to Post - Back to Top 211.25.130.42 isaacgohSenior Member member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 503 Location: Antara Ipoh dan K. Lumpur Re: N.northiana« Reply #43 on Sept 6, 2007, 11:09am » Quote:Anyone of you notice that the northiana puts out the pitcher only after several new leaves? My N. campanulata does that too. I look at the leaf tip and I tell yourself "Oh no, the tip is dead"...then 2-3 leaves later, this tip starts to balloon and develop into a pitcher. Seedlings being seedlings, they pitcher on every leaf. My big northiana does not pitcher at all, like you said only has the brown tip as though it's going to pitcher, but so far no action. I think got 10-15 leaves. I put this northiana in a bright corner of the balcony that does not get direct sun, is this why? What kind of lighting condition do you grow your northiana? Rgds, Isaac Link to Post - Back to Top 218.111.224.161 tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: N.northiana« Reply #44 on Sept 6, 2007, 11:34am » i put mine in direct morn` sun from 8-11 a.m......they grow in open spaces in the wild & get lotsa direct sun. or at least that`s what i assume from the photos i`ve seen of wild northiana. Link to Post - Back to Top 211.25.130.42 isaacgohSenior Member member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 503 Location: Antara Ipoh dan K. Lumpur Re: N.northiana« Reply #45 on Sept 6, 2007, 11:52am » Quote:i put mine in direct morn` sun from 8-11 a.m......they grow in open spaces in the wild & get lotsa direct sun. or at least that`s what i assume from the photos i`ve seen of wild northiana. Wokay, will find a good spot for my northiana with direct sun and swap place with my bical. Link to Post - Back to Top 218.111.224.161 tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: N.northiana« Reply #46 on Sept 6, 2007, 6:03pm » Gentle reminder : best not to do it all of a sudden ya Isaac.....it might go into shock if exposed to strong sunlite after its previous location. « Last Edit: Sept 6, 2007, 7:21pm by tarence »Link to Post - Back to Top 211.25.130.42 tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: N.northiana« Reply #47 on Sept 7, 2007, 10:41am » Cindy, i couldn`t notice that my nortiana puts out pitchers after only a few new leaves....mebbe it`ll take longer to observe but currently, most of the leaves seem to have pitchers. Link to Post - Back to Top 211.25.130.42 RobertAdvisor - Nepenthes member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 584 Location: Sarawak,Malaysian Borneo Re: N.northiana« Reply #48 on Sept 7, 2007, 12:51pm » one of mine too have pitchers on every leaf . others have pitchers but not on every leaf. I guess that was their natural response.Isaac, pitchers of northiana formed very slowly. like dead brown tip but it's developing. Link to Post - Back to Top 124.82.28.209 cindyGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Singapore Re: N.northiana« Reply #49 on Sept 7, 2007, 1:04pm » So each northiana has their own characteristics. I thought they are like campanulata, which also grow in limestone areas. The growing tip looks black all the time so I have learnt to ignore it.  Link to Post - Back to Top 165.21.154.12 RobertAdvisor - Nepenthes member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 584 Location: Sarawak,Malaysian Borneo Re: N.northiana« Reply #50 on Sept 7, 2007, 1:28pm » anybody snipped it off thinking it was dead Link to Post - Back to Top 124.82.28.209 tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: N.northiana« Reply #51 on Sept 7, 2007, 1:53pm » i think i may have.......oops. heheh. but they really did look dead to me...thin, light tendrils......next time i`ll leave them for a bit longer just to be sure . Link to Post - Back to Top 211.25.130.42 isaacgohSenior Member member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 503 Location: Antara Ipoh dan K. Lumpur Re: N.northiana« Reply #52 on Sept 7, 2007, 1:54pm » Quote:one of mine too have pitchers on every leaf . others have pitchers but not on every leaf. I guess that was their natural response. Isaac, pitchers of northiana formed very slowly. like dead brown tip but it's developing. Yeah, I will wait it to form the pitcher. I reckon if the pitcher forms it will be quite big because the plant is already an adult. Meanwhile, I have the seedlings to keep me happy! Link to Post - Back to Top 218.111.224.161 RobertAdvisor - Nepenthes member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 584 Location: Sarawak,Malaysian Borneo Re: N.northiana« Reply #53 on Sept 7, 2007, 3:40pm » Quote:i think i may have.......oops. heheh. but they really did look dead to me...thin, light tendrils......next time i`ll leave them for a bit longer just to be sure . The first time before it pitcher for me i thought the forming will not succeed.It was brown all the way down the tendril and lie there for many weeks. It elongates very slowly forming a beautiful pitcher about 8" length, Link to Post - Back to Top 124.82.28.209 cindyGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Singapore Re: N.northiana« Reply #54 on Sept 7, 2007, 4:11pm » 8"?  How big is the plant, Robert? Link to Post - Back to Top 165.21.154.17 RobertAdvisor - Nepenthes member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 584 Location: Sarawak,Malaysian Borneo Re: N.northiana« Reply #55 on Sept 7, 2007, 6:01pm » Quote:8"? How big is the plant, Robert? cindy,quite a normal size for northiana to attain. In the wild they are longer. That was my first plant and was about 20" tall. I will look for the file and repost Link to Post - Back to Top 124.82.28.209 RobertAdvisor - Nepenthes member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 584 Location: Sarawak,Malaysian Borneo Re: N.northiana« Reply #56 on Sept 8, 2007, 5:49pm » oops,I can't locate the CD. Nevertheless cultivating at home in pots the pitchers will be smaller and shorter. As what i found out. For comparison sake here are 2 pics. Both are taken in the wild.a 12" height ,1500ml water bottle besides an upper pitcher.  Lower pitcher from the same plant, recorded size at 16" length.  Link to Post - Back to Top 124.82.35.149 cactusttsPioneer Member / Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 584 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Re: N.northiana« Reply #57 on Sept 8, 2007, 5:53pm » My goodness, that's huge! Link to Post - Back to Top 60.53.46.216TS RobertAdvisor - Nepenthes member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 584 Location: Sarawak,Malaysian Borneo Re: N.northiana« Reply #58 on Sept 8, 2007, 5:54pm » Hi TS, can plant in your home garden to get to these size  Link to Post - Back to Top 124.82.35.149 cactusttsPioneer Member / Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 584 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Re: N.northiana« Reply #59 on Sept 8, 2007, 11:19pm » Why not I try it , urh? Plant it on the ground in my garden. Hmm..... Link to Post - Back to Top 60.53.43.185
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Re: tarence: N. northiana
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Advisor - Nepenthes member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 584 Location: Sarawak,Malaysian Borneo Re: N.northiana« Reply #60 on Sept 8, 2007, 11:40pm » i'm way ahead TS Link to Post - Back to Top 124.82.20.187 cactusttsPioneer Member / Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 584 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Re: N.northiana« Reply #61 on Sept 9, 2007, 9:52am » Really, mind to share the growing condition? Better if you can show some pictures. Link to Post - Back to Top 60.50.255.176TS RobertAdvisor - Nepenthes member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 584 Location: Sarawak,Malaysian Borneo Re: N.northiana« Reply #62 on Sept 9, 2007, 2:18pm » 2 months ago i planted my largest and some smaller one in my dad's garden. All on clay and they look good . No pitchers at the moment. Conds are natural lowland. They will get to smell clone D24 durians the first time once the fruiting season arrived Link to Post - Back to Top 124.82.38.133 cindyGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Singapore Re: N.northiana« Reply #63 on Sept 9, 2007, 5:26pm » What? Your dad's place has got D24 durians? That's my favourite! Besides, XO. Link to Post - Back to Top 165.21.154.108 RobertAdvisor - Nepenthes member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 584 Location: Sarawak,Malaysian Borneo Re: N.northiana« Reply #64 on Sept 9, 2007, 6:58pm » yap,that was the best clone.Many people bought and tasted only knowing the beautiful golden yellow colouration and flavour but without realising the clone.However i planted all the neps., away from the durian trees. Link to Post - Back to Top 124.82.38.133 tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: N.northiana« Reply #65 on Sept 10, 2007, 11:11am » Cindy, i love durians too...can eat non-stop until i get fever or pass out from internal heat-wave. heheh. Robert : i hope one fine day my northiana will grow to attain a `good` sized pitcher....8" also i`m happy oredi, no need the max. Link to Post - Back to Top 211.25.130.42 RobertAdvisor - Nepenthes member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 584 Location: Sarawak,Malaysian Borneo Re: N.northiana« Reply #66 on Sept 10, 2007, 5:35pm » Quote: Robert : i hope one fine day my northiana will grow to attain a `good` sized pitcher....8" also i`m happy oredi, no need the max. yeah, we are never satisfied. Once it reached 8"length we want our northie to reach ,say ,10" or longer Link to Post - Back to Top 60.53.36.36 isaacgohSenior Member member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 503 Location: Antara Ipoh dan K. Lumpur Re: N.northiana« Reply #67 on Sept 11, 2007, 9:19am » My nothie pitchers are only 1cm. LOL. Planting on the ground? Rob did with his Rajah. Link to Post - Back to Top 218.111.224.161 tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: N.northiana« Reply #68 on Sept 11, 2007, 9:28am » the longest one i have on the nep rite now is about 35mm.....but it`s pitchering quite crazily, 11 pitchers now ranging from super tiny to 35mm. well, i can wait for it to attain a good size later ......have no choice anyways, heheh. Link to Post - Back to Top 211.25.130.42 rainforestguySenior Member member is offline Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 386 Re: N.northiana« Reply #69 on Sept 23, 2007, 6:57am » Without sabotoging this thread, what is D24 Durians? We have durian here in Hawai'i and I love them, although many people here hate them repulsively. We also have Chumpaduk here which are my all time favorite and will always buy them when in season. Someone once gave me five of them and I was in heaven for the next five days! Oh well, back to nepenthes. M Link to Post - Back to Top 74.61.72.115http://www.lhnn.proboards107.com/index.cgi kltowerPioneer Member member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 195 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: N.northiana« Reply #70 on Sept 23, 2007, 12:38pm » Michael,Do they grow durians in hawaii or are they all imported (from Thailand)? D24 is one of the many clones developed to bring out the best in durians. It flesh is thick and rich, the seed , generally small and the taste fantastic. Of course you have to pay more. In a good harvest, you can get 5/6 small kampung (village) durians for RM10 ($3) and the bigger ones for 2 for RM10. But for D24 and the better clones you pay by the weight. For D24, you pay RM8-10 per kg. So a D24 durian could cost you RM15 to 20. But its well worth it. But it is better not to consume too much durians these days. For they are heavily sprayed with pesticide. In the good old days you can tell how good the durian is by the grub/worms found inside the durians. Durians used to seasonal. But they seems to be available almost year round. The difference between Malaysian and the Thai durians is the smell. Thai durians are less smelly and they are plucked from the trees, whilst the Malaysian ones are picked from the ground (or nets around the trees) after they fell. The Thai even have developed clones with hardly any smell for the export market. Did you know you are not allow to bring durians into planes (not as offensive weapons), hotels and public buildings? Choong Link to Post - Back to Top 60.52.124.7 rainforestguySenior Member member is offline Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 386 Re: N.northiana« Reply #71 on Sept 24, 2007, 2:32am » Thanks for your explanation of this most heavenly fruits. I must be weird because I love them almost as much as I do mangoes and mangosteens. We were on some estate some time ago and a bunch of us were walking through the large garden and we all came across this strange smell. The girls ran away thinking that it was due to some stagnant water or someone dumped some old food trash in the brush. I already knew the smell and actually went searching through the brush. It was aparent that the former owners of the estate must have brought back durian seeds and planted them and now stood three huge trees and a few smaller ones. There were ripe fruit attached to the trunk and I plucked a couple of smaller ones and showed the group that it was this fruit that the smell was coming from. They all thought that I was crazy when I said I am going to eat this later. One guy betted me a hundred dollars to eat it in front of everybody. All I can say is that I was a hundred dollar richer that afternoon and feeling so good in my tummy and wallet. Oh well sorry for this interruption, but I will research this durian type the next time I go to the open markets, or China Town. M Link to Post - Back to Top 74.61.72.115
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